Why we need to redefine what it means to travel for leisure


What are the social and environmental impacts of travel that we should be aware of? Why do we need to redefine what it means to be a tourist so that traveling can become a more sustainable leisure activity? Evelina Utterdahl, the ethical and sustainable travel blogger behind Earth Wanderess (who decided to stop flying this year) shares her wisdom with us on this episode. Let's dive in.

This is a conversation on Green Dreamer Podcast with Kaméa Chayne, a show exploring environmental and intersectional sustainability from ideas to life. Subscribe to Green Dreamer on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, or any podcast app and let’s learn what it takes to thrive in every sense of the word!


[2:09] What first inspired Eve's love of nature. 

[3:40] Eve shares how she first got into travel blogging. 

[4:52] Kaméa: "What do you think traveling solo allows you to gain that traveling with others might not give you?" 

[6:50] What inspired Eve to go deeper and talk about the social and environmental impact of her travels. 

[8:58] Eve: "Curiosity and learning and growing and changing is what life is about... To me, what life is... is to grow and to see things from different angles.

[6:34] Kaméa: "What's been your greatest personal struggle over the years with growing your personal platform?" 

[11:08] What Eve says has been key to growing her audience. 

13:41] Eve: "I don't judge people. I just try to give tools to make better decisions, and I think that's key." 

[14:20] Eve discusses the privilege of having the time, money, and powerful passport to be able to travel freely. 

[16:32] Kaméa: "What are some of the social issues that travelers might worsen if we're not conscious?" 

[19:56] Eve shares some easy things we can do as tourists to support local communities and help address the social and environmental costs of travel. 

[21:11] Kaméa: "What do you think the world needs to make traveling a sustainable leisure activity?" 

[22:21] Eve: "I think we need to change the mindset that traveling has to be far away or exotic... It can be in your own hometown." 

[26:36] The greatest life lesson Eve's learned through her travels.  



Evelina Utterdahl


To follow: @lowimpactmovement

Words of inspiration: "That it's a ripple effect." 

Health tip: "I try to be in nature as much as possible." 

Green tip: "A 30-day plastic-free challenge." 

Element of hope: "Social media." 

Words of Wisdom: "Just try to do a little bit better every single day. Don't rush it or be too hard on yourself."


Two Takeaways